| April 2003 | Issue 251 |
MEETING STARTS - 09:30 - APR 12 th
Last time, "Images" or "Imaging" took us thru one part of gathering images for manipulation and use: scanning.
This month, we want to take a swing at another increasingly common mode: digital cameras. However, the number of makers, number of models and range of features have proliferated like rabbits! With the traditional camera makers PLUS the usual computer peripheral guys all in the game, choosing a camera is a task! Then, learning how to use even the lower end cameras is a task more daunting (if you can believe it) than programming your VCR! So, we need some help for this one. If you own/use a digital camera, how about bringing it to the meeting and join a discussion of: what features the camera has, why you chose it and how it does or does not do what you'd like. Any problems you have could be grist for discussion, too.
Depending on how the showing is, we may or may not have the time to discuss the subject of acquiring a new club demo computer. On p.2 and p.4 this month are a couple of intro items to the subject. Please look them over; so you can arrive armed for the discussion.
If the discussions are extensive, we'll reserve the right to continue them next time!
Two trends, that have been progressing furiously, have also been converging - with no-so-nice consequences. They are: 1) the increasing size and complexity of the operating system (OS), hereinafter known as Windows (Win) and 2) patches issuing at frequent intervals to "fix" security (and other) problems with that complexity.
The prime example was the original release of Wineows XP to the public, in the fall of 2001. On that same day, Microsoft (MS) released the first of a barrage of "updates" (hereinafter known as patches) to correct operational and security problems in their brand-new OS. [cont'd.]
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THE EMAILING LIST - for those members who have provided an email address, we have subscribed
them to the MLCUG listserver (operated most graciously by Pete Whinnery and the UPenn system).
This is a way to catch early announcements, hear about problems (and solutions?) between the
meetings. You can get (and give) help. A useful tool we feel; so when renewing, consider
including your email address on that line on the form.
REGULAR REMINDERS: - 1) attendees know that we have a very fast internet connection from the VU
meeting room! So, if you have a very large download, you could bring along a zip disk (or a CD-
R/RW) and get it done there, either before or after the main meeting.
2) a half dozen or so of the regular attendees usually partake of lunch at the Villanova Diner
after the meeting. Why not join us? It is a good time to get a little more help (or give it)
and just to have fun talking about our common interests. The food is quite good, too!
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For the last couple of years, the Steering Committee (hereinafter to be known as SC) has
discussed whether we had reached the point of needing to upgrade or replace the club computer.
Up until a couple-three months ago, we felt we had not. But, it appears that the time has now
come.
Starting to dabble in images, imaging and image processing will tax the capacity of our present
machine; so we have started a process to acquire a new box.
The first hurdle was purchase mode. At the meeting on April 19th, we decided that we'd like to
identify a set of components, then have them assembled and burned-in by a vendor and have the
working (and warranted) box sent to us. This would be a "bare bones" box; so we would need to
finish it. The finishing likely would be done as "meeting demos".
But, we'd like to engage folks in deciding on what the "bare bones" box would consist of. As
the system emerges, we'll post progress for further comment, if needed.
Initially, the choices to be made are:
To jog your brains into gear, give a read to John Murphy's article on p.4 in this issue.
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The following was posted to the MLCUG mailing list:
"Well, a major PC maker, namely; DELL, has finally joined Apple in quitting putting a floppy
drive on their machines. Or at least, they said they would stop.
When Apple did this several years ago - in favor of putting a USB port and no floppy, it brought
on a new generation of peripherals. That is, ones designed to use the USB serial communication
mode.
The appearance of these new generation widgets led PC makers to start putting USB ports on their
products. But, the PC makers continued to provide a floppy drive, even tho it cost them a
couple of bucks to continue to do so !!!
This "progress" makes it even more important to have some sort of legacy system around; so
you'll be able to access those "old" floppies!!!" Have you got one?
That posting brought a couple of followup questions:
> What about boot disks?
NO more boot disks, you'll need to boot from your Windows or Recovery CD. Any future PC without
a floppy drive will be able to boot from a CD (actually most, if not all, newer ones already can
do so).
> What about Drive Image?
Can't say for sure; but I assume that Powerquest will provide a bootable CD or allow you to
produce one yourself.
As a reminder, Apple got thru the no-floppy transition relatively unscathed! Only old Mac
owners (like your editor) still need floppies, as they have no USB capability. Also, I expect
that the BIOS makers will figure out how to boot from USB devices (if they have not done so
already).
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For our March meeting, we had 18 attendees, and a pretty lively session!
After the February choice of "scanning" as a next topic on imaging, Layton brought in his
scanner and laptop - which were interfaced to the projector; so we could switch back and forth
between the club PC and the scanner setup (thanks to the 2-port KVM switch we installed a few
months ago).
His scanner is an HP and uses the HP PrecisionScan software to manage the unit. This software
is very versatile and capable of a wide variety of adjustments to achieve the best possible
"scan". A good scan means less fiddling (and possible fouling up) of the image.
So, the thrust of Layton's presentation was on the aspects of the scanning process - no
discussion of image massaging (that should come up at a meeting soon). The next item in this
issue is a summary of good scanning strategy that Layton provided. Give it a look and bring up
questions at the next meeting, or in subsequent meetings, while we're focusing on images
At the steering meeting, the followup topic was chosen to be digital cameras, as an alternate to
scanning, for gathering images to massage and show or share.
Most likely, we'll move to image manipulation following these "getting images" presentations.
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Please look these key points over, and if you have questions, don't hesitate to raise them nexu
time. These comments apply primarily to folks who'll use Photoshop or Photoshop Elements for
subsequent manipulation. You'll have to modify the items depending on the specific capabilities
of your software, Layton.
The latest issue of Consumer Reports magazine has a 13-page section on various aspects of your
digital darkroom. By the time you read this, it will be getting scarce: so you'll have to pop
right out to get it!
But, if you have, or are likely to have, an interest in digital photography it has a very wide-
ranging introduction to the subject. Add this to the copy of Smart Computing that you got last
month (you did didn't you?) for a second viewpoint on this burgeoning activity.
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by John Murphy
Hopefully the info below will generate some discussion. Pete Whinnery just went through a
similar process in BTOing his new PC. Maybe he can post his deliberations?
So, here are the criteria that I used when configuring my built-to-order (BTO) computer:
CPU: I narrowed my choices down to either an AMD Athlon or a Intel Pentium 4. I went with an
Athlon. The Athlon seemed!to be the CPU of choice for Linux and for gaming. It also seemed to
be the choice of those who overclock their systems. I wasn't really sure that I wanted to
overclock my system on a regular basis, but it seemed like a fun thing to try. The fact that
the Athlon and the system boards that used Athlon processors cost less than their Intel
counterparts was also a factor in the decision.
Specifically, I chose the Athlon 2700+ CPU. It was one step below the latest & greatest Athlon,
which at the time was the 2800+. The 2700+ was also the first Athlon to use a 333MHz frontside
bus. The earlier Athlon's used a 266MHz FSB.
System Board: I wanted a system board that used the faster DDR memory that has become available.
I also wanted a board that supported a 333MHz front side bus.
My other required features were:
I have found that most of the on-board audio implementations are sufficient for my purposes.
The on-board Ethernet port would save a PCI slot. The MIDI port is to hook up an electronic
keyboard that I have.
I selected a GigaByte GV-7AXP system board. It has a type A socket for Athlon CPUs. It
supports three DIMM slots at up to 400MHz DDR for a total possible memory of 1.5GB. The board
has one 8x AGP slot, five PCI slots, six USB 2.0 ports, three IEEE1394 ports, two serial ports,
one parallel port, one joystick/MIDI port, on-board audio and an on-board 10/100 Ethernet port.
It also supports up to ATA 133 IDE drives and also has an on-board, IDE RAID controller.
Video: There are two major chip manufacturers of GPUs (Graphics Processing Unit), ATI and
NVidia. Both have low, medium and high-end video adapters. I have had good luck with NVidia-
based video adapters. I originally specified an NVidia MX440 card for my system. When I got an
opportunity to purchase a more expensive BTO system, I gave in to temptation and bought the top
of the line ATI Radeon 9700 Pro adapter. I found that while the 9700 Pro is good, it's not as
good as its hype. If I were to do it over again, I would go with my original spec and get an
NVidia MX440 or perhaps the newer MX480.
Optical Drive: I watched for sales and rebates, then I purchased a DVD-R/CD-RW drive. I wanted
to have the ability to create video DVDs and also to be able to backup to DVD-R media, which
holds approximately 4.4GB of data. I also wanted to be able create CD-R/RW discs. The drive I
wanted, from Cendyne, went on sale with a rebate that brought the price down to $179 from an
original price near $300. I bought the drive and found it to be a Pioneer A05 DVD-R drive with
write DVD-R at 4x and CD-R at 16x. So far I have been quite happy with it. I also bought a
DVD-ROM drive (on sale, with rebate) for less $40. I now use the combination to copy data DVDs
and non-commercial video DVDs.
Disk Drive: I wanted the fastest drives that I could afford. I bought two Maxtor 120GB 7200RPM,
ATA 133 hard disk drives. The OEM version cost about $136 each, a little over $1 per GB. They
also make an 80GB version that usually sells for under $95. I wanted the larger drives because
I have been doing a lot of video work and the files take up many gigabytes of space while I am
playing with them. I have been happy with the Maxtor drives. They are fast, quiet and I
haven't been able to fill them yet.
Case: I wantee a case with USB and IEEE1394 ports in the front of the case. I didn't do a lot
of research on the case and basically picked the least expensive case with the front ports that
I wanted. I ended up with a silver case that has a clear plastic side that shows the innards.
It is fancier than I might have ordinarily selected, but it seems to do the job. It has a big
enough power supply and the front ports that I wanted.
ANNOUNCEMENTS & COMMENTS
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NEW CLUB COMPUTER
Beyond the start, we'll be open to:
We have not settled on an OS (actually didn't really discuss it). But, if we get a bare bones,
we'll likely have a CHOICE of OS. In any case, since we're very early in the process, comments
from the members are solicited.
No floppy drive!
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LAST MONTH'S MEETING
Scanning: Key Points
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Digital Darkroom
Choosing A Computer
Optional features:
I wanted USB 2.0 to be able to take advantage of the new peripherals that are becoming
available. I wanted IEEE1394 (FireWire) to hook up my DV video camera and my FireWire scanner.
The latest video cards are AGP running at 8x. I had plans to get one of the newer video cards.
I did not want ISA slots because they slow down the overall system. That also was why I did not
want on-board video. Most of these implementations use shared main memory and slow down the
overall system.